Catholic Gay Pride Banner Controversy
"The Archdiocese declined to explain telling CNN it had 'no comment'. "
Really, Archbishop Dolan? 'no comment' Really??? So you are not going to explain? You are not going to take a teaching moment on national television? even though that airtime would have cost you $.00, nothing,nada, zilch...and all the archdiocese of New York has to say is... 'no comment'...
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Gay Vatican Priest Caught
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Mon, Oct 15, 2007
Vatican suspends senior monsignor in gay sex scandal
AP , VATICAN CITY
The Vatican said it has suspended a monsignor from a senior post at the Holy See after an Italian TV program, with a hidden camera, recorded him making advances to a young man, while the monsignor said he was pretending to be homosexual.
The monsignor, who told the young man on camera that it was not a sin to be gay, said in an interview published yesterday that he is not gay and was only pretending as part of his work.
In an interview with La Repubblica newspaper, Monsignor Tommaso Stenico said he frequented online gay chat rooms and met with gay men as part of his work as a psychoanalyst.
Stenico said that he had pretended to be homosexual in order to gather information about "those who damage the image of the church with homosexual activity."
Vatican teaching holds that homosexual activity is a sin.
"It's all false; it was a trap. I was a victim of my own attempts to contribute to cleaning up the Church with my psychoanalyst work," La Repubblica quoted Stenico as saying.
Vatican spokesman the Reverend Federico Lombardi said on Saturday that the monsignor had been suspended pending a Vatican investigation.
Stenico is a top official in the Vatican's Congregation of the Clergy.
The Holy see acted after Vatican officials recognized Stenico's office in the background of a television program on gay priests that was broadcast on Oct. 1 on La7, a private Italian TV network.
While the Vatican rarely comments on individual sex scandals, this case directly touched the Holy See, apparently prompting its public confirmation of the report to media.
I can't deny the fact," Lombardi told journalists on Saturday.
"Higher-ups are evaluating the situation with the necessary reserve and with the obligatory respect for the person involved, even if this person has erred," Lombardi said.
In the Repubblica interview, Stenico said he had met with the young man and pretended to talk about homosexuality "to better understand this mysterious and faraway world which, by the fault of a few people -- among them some priests -- is doing so much harm to the church."
Stenico said he had never been gay and was heterosexual, but remained faithful to his vow of celibacy.
Italy's Sky TG24 said that Stenico had written a letter to his superiors, explaining his reason for approaching the young man about homosexuality.
Calls placed to Stenico's home and Vatican office went unanswered yesterday.
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http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/18-10-2007/99081-vatican-0/
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There appears to be no end in sight to the scourge of homosexuality within the Catholic Church in the priesthood and in the hierarchy. When will the Holy See extricate the Church from the homosexual death grip that has enthralled so many Catholics, including priests, religious, and bishops?
A New Pastoral Letter & John Jay Report?
Randy Engel's latest article is worth reading: Gay agenda sways Catholic bishops
Here's a brief quote to give you as sense of what the (much longer) article is about:
San Francisco Sacrilege Updates
San Francisco Archbishop, George Niederauer, has apologized for giving the Most Holy Eucharist to militant homosexuals dressed in mock religious garb and "drag queen" make-up: Statement released Oct. 11 by Archdiocese of San Francisco regarding archbishop giving communion to two “Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence”
The bishops' spokesman had already offered this statement about the issue before Niederauer apologized: “I did not see any mock religious garb”; Spokesman says San Francisco archbishop “simply making a pastoral visit” when he gave communion to men dressed as nuns
The reasons I'm not buying what Archbishop Niederauer and his spokesman are selling are found in this post: Bill O'Reilly Didn't Do His Homework When Reporting On The San Francisco Sacrilege
California Catholic Daily also reports that Most Holy Redeemer Parish and "The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" remain unrepentant: “It allows me to live the life of Christ in fabulous make up and heels"; No mea culpas at Most Holy Redeemer: parish publishes thank-you note from member of group condemned in archbishop’s apology
Vatican Suspends Monsignor For "Anonymous" Televised Admission Of Homosexual Activity The Saga Continues...
An on-line version of the Italian television broadcast, “Exit” segment, that exposed Mosignor Tommaso Stenico, Capo Ufficio in the Congregation for the Clergy and Professor at the Pontifical Lateranian University, can be found here: Chiesa ed omosessualità
Rorate Caeli offers excellent insight into the problem here: Shame and shamelessness
Quote:
Abbey-Roads has this commentary on the situation: Boys in the Vatican
John Allen, a senior correspondent in Rome who writes for the progressive, National Catholic Reporter, tends to do a fair job with reporting the facts, despite the heterodox agenda of the NCR.
He offers some details about the defense offered by the suspended priest for his behavior here: Vatican official suspended after hidden camera report on gay priests
The text of Allen's report and analysis is after the jump...
The monsignor, who told the young man on camera that it was not a sin to be gay, said in an interview published yesterday that he is not gay and was only pretending as part of his work.
In an interview with La Repubblica newspaper, Monsignor Tommaso Stenico said he frequented online gay chat rooms and met with gay men as part of his work as a psychoanalyst.
Stenico said that he had pretended to be homosexual in order to gather information about "those who damage the image of the church with homosexual activity."
Vatican teaching holds that homosexual activity is a sin.
"It's all false; it was a trap. I was a victim of my own attempts to contribute to cleaning up the Church with my psychoanalyst work," La Repubblica quoted Stenico as saying.
Vatican spokesman the Reverend Federico Lombardi said on Saturday that the monsignor had been suspended pending a Vatican investigation.
Stenico is a top official in the Vatican's Congregation of the Clergy.
The Holy see acted after Vatican officials recognized Stenico's office in the background of a television program on gay priests that was broadcast on Oct. 1 on La7, a private Italian TV network.
While the Vatican rarely comments on individual sex scandals, this case directly touched the Holy See, apparently prompting its public confirmation of the report to media.
I can't deny the fact," Lombardi told journalists on Saturday.
"Higher-ups are evaluating the situation with the necessary reserve and with the obligatory respect for the person involved, even if this person has erred," Lombardi said.
In the Repubblica interview, Stenico said he had met with the young man and pretended to talk about homosexuality "to better understand this mysterious and faraway world which, by the fault of a few people -- among them some priests -- is doing so much harm to the church."
Stenico said he had never been gay and was heterosexual, but remained faithful to his vow of celibacy.
Italy's Sky TG24 said that Stenico had written a letter to his superiors, explaining his reason for approaching the young man about homosexuality.
Calls placed to Stenico's home and Vatican office went unanswered yesterday.
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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2007/10/22/suspended-vatican-priest-has-list-of-gay-colleagues/
Suspended Vatican priest has list of gay colleagues
A Roman Catholic Church official suspended after he was identified in a television broadcast supposedly declaring his homosexuality and making advances to a young man has a dossier of gay clergy who work in the Vatican, according to a TV report.
Monsignor Tommaso Stenico has a “list of names and circumstances implicating a certain number of priests and even bishops working at the Curia,” Italian current affairs show Panorama revealed on Friday.
The Curia is the governing body of the Roman Catholic Church.
Monsignor Stenico was suspended last week after he was identified in a television broadcast supposedly declaring his homosexuality and making advances to a young man while a hidden camera filmed him.
He had invited the man to his Vatican office after chatting to him online.
The Monsignor was also recorded in the TV expose saying that he did not regard his homosexuality as sinful but was discreet in order not to attract the attention of the his superiors or the Pope.
When repeatedly confronted by the undercover reporter that gay sex is sinful in the eyes of the Church, the Monsignor then said he was tired of the conversation and showed his guest to the lift.
He was identified in the TV broadcast only as a sixty-year-old, working in the Congregation for the Clergy department, which manages the world’s 400,000 active Catholic priests.
However, Vatican officials recognised his office from the footage as well as the lift. He has been suspended and faces being defrocked.
The existence of the list of gay clergy has excited the Italian media, with some reporting it was compiled by Monsignor Stenico because he is angry he has been overlooked for promotion to bishop.
The Monsignor, who is a TV chat show regular in Italy, claimed to be pretending to be gay in online chat rooms in order to meet gay men as part of his work as a psychoanalyst.
He has sent a report to his superior Cardinal Claudio Hummes, president of the Disciplinary Commission of the Roman Curia, denouncing immorality in the Curia, Panorama reported.
Monsignor Tommaso Stenico has a “list of names and circumstances implicating a certain number of priests and even bishops working at the Curia,” Italian current affairs show Panorama revealed on Friday.
The Curia is the governing body of the Roman Catholic Church.
Monsignor Stenico was suspended last week after he was identified in a television broadcast supposedly declaring his homosexuality and making advances to a young man while a hidden camera filmed him.
He had invited the man to his Vatican office after chatting to him online.
The Monsignor was also recorded in the TV expose saying that he did not regard his homosexuality as sinful but was discreet in order not to attract the attention of the his superiors or the Pope.
When repeatedly confronted by the undercover reporter that gay sex is sinful in the eyes of the Church, the Monsignor then said he was tired of the conversation and showed his guest to the lift.
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However, Vatican officials recognised his office from the footage as well as the lift. He has been suspended and faces being defrocked.
The existence of the list of gay clergy has excited the Italian media, with some reporting it was compiled by Monsignor Stenico because he is angry he has been overlooked for promotion to bishop.
The Monsignor, who is a TV chat show regular in Italy, claimed to be pretending to be gay in online chat rooms in order to meet gay men as part of his work as a psychoanalyst.
He has sent a report to his superior Cardinal Claudio Hummes, president of the Disciplinary Commission of the Roman Curia, denouncing immorality in the Curia, Panorama reported.
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Vatican publicly washes its dirty linen amid homosexual scandal
18.10.2007
Vatican publicly washes its dirty linen amid homosexual scandal
As a rule, the Vatican does not wash its dirty linen in public. However, the Holy See had to comment on the latest sex scandal involving a Roman Catholic priest. A Vatican spokesman confirmed Sunday that a high-ranking priest had been suspended following his appearance on a controversial TV program in Italy earlier this month. The priest was secretly filmed making advances to a young man and asserting that gay sex was not sinful during the program broadcast October 1 by La7, a private Italian television network. Several colleagues of the priest recognized his Vatican office in the background, despite the fact that his face was blurred and his voice was disguised in the footage. “I cannot deny the fact than the incident has taken place,” said Father Federico Lombardi, chief spokesman for the Vatican, in a statement released on Sunday.
It stands to reason that the Vatican was reluctant to identify the priest, but truth will out or so the saying goes. As it turned out, the priest in question is known as Monsignor Tommaso Stenico, the BBC reports. Monsignor Stenico is relatively high-ranking Vatican official. Before his coming out of the closet, Monsignor Stenico headed an office an office in the Vatican’s Congregation for Clergy, the main office overseeing all the world’s Roman Catholic priests. Although Monsignor Stenico does not deny taking part in the controversial program, he claims he has been misunderstood. “I pretended to be gay in order to gather information about those who damage the image of the church with homosexual activity,” the priest insisted in his letter posted on Petrus, a Catholic web site. “I was caught on hidden camera; otherwise I would have never said those words in the first place,” Monsignor Stenico added.
“An investigation is being launched into the situation with due respect to the interested person, though he has made a mistake,” said Father Federico Lombardi, chief spokesman for the Holy See, in his statement on Sunday. Father Lombardi stressed the point that the church leadership “would have to take strict measures.”
Unlike some Protestant Churches, the Roman Catholic Church has always had a condemnatory stance on homosexuality and same-sex marriages. Both Pope Benedict XVI, known for his conservative views, and his more liberal predecessor Joan Paul II have repeatedly spoken against sexual dissoluteness. Speaking to Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams in 2003, John Paul II said that the decision of the Church of England to install openly gay priests as priors in two counties would create serious problems in the relations between the two churches.
In fact, Pope Benedict XVI has already had to respond to allegations that there are gays in the Roman Catholic priesthood. During his meeting with Irish bishops last year, the Pope said that the reputation of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland has been significantly blemished by a number of sex scandals involving priests. More than one hundred priests have been accused of engaging in homosexual activity since 1962, accordinto an investigation conducted in Ireland.
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Monday, October 15, 2007
The Homosexual Agenda & The U.S. Catholic Bishops, Plus: More On The San Francisco Sacrilege & The Priest Suspended By The Vatican For Admission Of Homosexual Behavior
A New Pastoral Letter & John Jay Report?
Randy Engel's latest article is worth reading: Gay agenda sways Catholic bishops
Here's a brief quote to give you as sense of what the (much longer) article is about:
Urge your bishop to vote “NO” on “Ministry to Persons With a Homosexual Inclination: Guidelines for Pastoral Care” and Vote “NO” on the new John Jay Study on Clerical Sexual Abuse. The vote will take place at the November 13-16, 2006 fall meeting of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) to be held at the Baltimore Marriott Waterfront, 700 Aliceanna Street, Baltimore, MD 21202. Letters, phone calls and faxes urging a “NO” vote on these two important agenda items are needed both before your bishop leaves his diocese for Baltimore and after he arrives at the hotel.
San Francisco Sacrilege Updates
San Francisco Archbishop, George Niederauer, has apologized for giving the Most Holy Eucharist to militant homosexuals dressed in mock religious garb and "drag queen" make-up: Statement released Oct. 11 by Archdiocese of San Francisco regarding archbishop giving communion to two “Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence”
The bishops' spokesman had already offered this statement about the issue before Niederauer apologized: “I did not see any mock religious garb”; Spokesman says San Francisco archbishop “simply making a pastoral visit” when he gave communion to men dressed as nuns
The reasons I'm not buying what Archbishop Niederauer and his spokesman are selling are found in this post: Bill O'Reilly Didn't Do His Homework When Reporting On The San Francisco Sacrilege
California Catholic Daily also reports that Most Holy Redeemer Parish and "The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" remain unrepentant: “It allows me to live the life of Christ in fabulous make up and heels"; No mea culpas at Most Holy Redeemer: parish publishes thank-you note from member of group condemned in archbishop’s apology
Vatican Suspends Monsignor For "Anonymous" Televised Admission Of Homosexual Activity The Saga Continues...
An on-line version of the Italian television broadcast, “Exit” segment, that exposed Mosignor Tommaso Stenico, Capo Ufficio in the Congregation for the Clergy and Professor at the Pontifical Lateranian University, can be found here: Chiesa ed omosessualità
Rorate Caeli offers excellent insight into the problem here: Shame and shamelessness
Quote:
Now, this shameless man has the gall to tell Italian religious news website Petrus that he was actually willing "to write a book, a research [paper] on the problem of homosexuality among priests". Right... That is probaby why Stenico ended his date with the words, "If you wish, call me or send me a [text] message. How good you are. [Quanto sei bono.]". It is unavoidable to conclude that the Vatican is infested with active homosexuals - who are only suspended from their functions when they are arrested with transsexual male prostitutes (as it happened to Monsignor Cesare Burgazzi (C.B.), a high officer in the Secretariat of State, last year), or found looking at homosexual pornography websites (as it happened to three priests last year, including one who said "to everyone that he fell in disgrace only due to the jealosy of those for whom he had shown no interest"), or shown in national television as they bring their dates to their Vatican offices, as it happened to Monsignor Stenico.
What now?
Abbey-Roads has this commentary on the situation: Boys in the Vatican
John Allen, a senior correspondent in Rome who writes for the progressive, National Catholic Reporter, tends to do a fair job with reporting the facts, despite the heterodox agenda of the NCR.
He offers some details about the defense offered by the suspended priest for his behavior here: Vatican official suspended after hidden camera report on gay priests
The text of Allen's report and analysis is after the jump...
Here's John Allen's report:
Do you buy the excuse? I have a hard time believing it.
Any thoughts?
A monsignor in the Vatican’s Congregation for Clergy has been suspended after being caught on hidden camera in a recent Italian TV broadcast about gays in the priesthood, in which he and other priests made contact with a young man posing as a potential “date” in gay-oriented web sites and chat rooms, and then arranged for meetings the priests apparently believed would lead to sexual encounters. In the wake of the disclosures, the Vatican official in question, Italian Monsignor Tommaso Stenico, claims that he was only pretending to be gay in order to uncover what he described as plots to damage the church by targeting vulnerable priests with homosexual tendencies.
Stenico, 60, has served in the Vatican since 1982. His current assignment is as a capo ufficio, or “head of the office,” within the Congregation for Clergy with special responsibility for catechesis. He’s also a fixture in the Italian Catholic media, and has published several books on spiritual and catechetical subjects.
On Oct. 1, the Italian television program “Exit” broadcast separate encounters recorded using a hidden camera with three priests and a young man secretly working for the TV program. The voices and faces were disguised, but one of the priests was clearly a Vatican official, since the camera showed the priest and the young man entering an elevator inside one of the office buildings used by the Roman curia, and also showed the outer door of the Congregation for Clergy. After some conversation in his Vatican office, the priest appears to try to initiate a sexual encounter, but pulls away when the young man expresses doubts.
In short order, Vatican authorities flagged Stenico as the priest and suspended him from office. He could face other disciplinary consequences.
“I can’t deny the facts,” said Jesuit Fr. Federico Lombardio, Vatican spokesperson, responding to requests for comment from reporters. “The superiors are handling the situation with the due reserve and with the due respect for the person involved, even if this person has erred.” Lombardi said that Vatican authorities “must intervene with the severity demanded by behavior that is not compatible with priestly service and with the mission of the Holy See.”
Yesterday, however, a statement from Stenico appeared on the Italian Catholic web site “Petrus,” where his commentaries appear regularly. Stenico, who holds a degree in psychology in addition to his theological training, said that after discussions with his spiritual director, he decided to become a “thief among thieves” to determine if there was an effort to damage the church through the weaknesses of gay priests.
“I discovered that there is,” Stenico wrote. “There’s a diabolical plan by groups of Satanists that single out priests.”
Stenico said that his aim in pretending to be gay was to understand this world, not to participate in it. Stenico also asserted that being caught on a hidden camera could be a form of retribution for having earlier complained to police about a young man who offered him sexual favors in exchange for his help in obtaining a job.
“I’ve lived my life as a priest persecuted by much calumny, envy and jealousy,” Stenico wrote.
Before his recent difficulties, Stenico appeared regularly on the Italian Catholic TV network Telepace and on Radio Maria, where he had a monthly program on “Evangelization, Catechesis and Catechists.”
In the “Exit” broadcast, Stenico meets the young man posing as his “date” in St. Peter’s Square, and the two get into the priest’s car and enter the Vatican through a parking garage. They enter a Vatican office, where Stenico talks at some length about the church and homosexuality, defending, for example, the church’s position that marriage should be restricted to a man and a woman, while conceding the possibility of other legal arrangements for same-sex couples. They also briefly discuss sado-masochism, with Stenico referring to it as “a choice within the psychological depths of a personality.”
At one point, the priest says to the young man “I’m waiting for you … come here,” and at another tells him “you’re very cute, you’re completely cute.” The young man then says, “You’re about to commit a sin with me before the eyes of God,” to which the priest responds, “No, I don’t feel that it’s a sin.” When the young man does not respond, the priest later identified as Stenico says it’s clear that the young man is feeling “conflicted.” The priest says he will put him on the elevator to leave, advising him not to say anything if someone approaches him.
An on-line version of the “Exit” segment can be found here: Chiesa ed omosessualità
Do you buy the excuse? I have a hard time believing it.
Any thoughts?
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