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GLORIA TV BANS F.John LOUGHNAN and OTHERS

GLORIA TV BANS F.John LOUGHNAN and OTHERS


August 14, 2012
GLORIA TV BANS F. John LOUGHNAN and Others
Following the uploading of the file below ["HOLYROPE CONSIDERED"]
GLORIA TV banned F. John Loughnan from posting for four weeks
- which now appears to be "permanent"!


I have been engaged in a series of "encounters" with a variety of so-called "traditionalists" who consistently demean the Catholic Church's liturgy of the Mass, the Sacraments, the Supreme Pontiffs and the Magisterium of the Church. These so-called "traditionalists" vary from disaffected and/or ignorant Catholics, adherents to the Society of St Pius X, the Society of St Pius V, variates of Sedevacantists and Independents, pseudo-apparitionists - who all enjoy free reign to vent their heterodox spleens without hindrance on GLORIA TV - which carries the motto: "The More Catholic the Better"!
Who Is Behind Gloria TV?
As far as I have been able to discover, GLORIA TV is mainly operated by
  1. Fr Reto NEY, who is Parish Administrator of Saint Vigeli in the mountain parish of Sedrun, Switzerland. He appears to be head of GLORIA.TV. He is reported as declaring "As to any legal consequences: What law do you mean? The German or Austrian law is not decisive for us." "Nay has registered GLORIA.TV in Moldova."

    The address of the Church appears to be: Tujetsch, S. Vigeli, Pfarrei, Casa parvenda, Cadruvi 4, 7188 Sedrun. T 081 936 54 31
  2. DBuzut
    Doina Buzut
    Doina Buzut from Moldova is the daily "face" for GLORIA.TV.

    Donors are directed to forward their money to: "Doina Buzut, Gloria.TV, 4 Cadruvi, CH-7188 Sedrun, Switzerland.

    Doina Buzut is recorded as being the (100%) sole owner of Gloria TV Productions (GTVP).

    Supervisory board, management and authorized signatories of Gloria TV Productions (GTVP), di Doina Buzut.

    A poster writes: "Gloria TV informs us regarding that Ms Buzut has studied pedagogy and violin in Moldova. She earned her Master in Theology in Gaming (Austria). After that she completed in Lugano (Switzerland) a Master in Intercultural Communication. Presently she is finishing her licentiate at the Theological Faculty of Lugano."
  3. Principe
    There IS also a NEWS controller who also acts as "moderator" of posts to the NEWS section which oppose his opinions: Anthony Principe - who posts personally as Holy Cannoli.

    See GLORIA TV Moderator Admits 'PREFERRING' The SSPX - then "deletes" his admission!
    This is how Anthony Principe a.k.a. Holy Cannoli describes himself:
    "Anthony Principe is a Catholic from birth and a retired Optometric Physician living in the United States. He has served on the Board of Directors of a Crisis Pregnancy Center, worked as a volunteer in hospice, at a soup kitchen, at a homeless shelter and currently volunteers at a perpetual adoration chapel. Anthony is a contributor to the News Briefs articles at gloria.tv. and he is considered by many to be one of the most romantic man in the entire Western Hemisphere."

    See HERE

Warning Received From Doina Buzut
A couple of weeks ago, I received the letter immediately below:
Dear F. John Loughnan,

Thank you very much for your many valuable contributions on Gloria.TV.

But, I have to ask you kindly to stop spamming:
"WHETHER THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X IS HERETICAL OR NOT IN FULL COMMUNION WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (a.k.a. SCHISMATIC) IS SIMPLY ARGUING APPLES OR ORANGES!

ANYONE who persistently fails to respond positively to a defined DOGMA OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH is ipso facto deemed to be a FORMAL HERETIC.

Do YOU, Ben Martin, lukedaniel, Holy Connoli, or A. Principe, Holyrope3 affirm or deny that
The Ordinary Form of the Mass (the so-called Novus Ordo") is NOT "a true and proper sacrifice offered to God"
Quote
"If anyone saith that in the Mass a true and proper sacrifice is not offered to God...let him be anathema." Council of Trent."
If you post it once with names, there is not need to post it again and again, under every posting you make.

I will regret wholeheartedly, if I have to remove you from the list of Gloria users.

Thank you for your understanding.

United in prayer

Doina

So, Who Is Doina Buzut?
As I was ignorant as to Doina Buzut's position vis-a-vis GLORIA.TV, I replied:
Dear Doina,

Just looked at your message.

Would you please advise at to YOUR authority within the GLORIA network. While you are at it, would you also please advise the names, contact details of all GLORIA directors and executives?

Unfortunately, the REAL offenders are the schismatics, heretics and dissidents who populate GLORIA TV. I am sure that if GLORIA TV were to seek classification with CATHOLIC CULTURE - they would classify it as "DANGEROUS".

Nevertheless, I will accede to your present demand - under protest - for it is an act of Charity to admonish the sinner, is it not?

F. John Loughnan

Having said that, I uploaded my next post - minus the above alleged "spam" - and received, in reply, notice of suspension for four weeks - all my posts being immediately deleted. Hmmmmmmmm! Thank you, Doina!
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GLORIA TV Encourages Criticism Of
The Catholic Church, the Pope, the Magisterium and the Authorized Liturgy
Now, I have no problems with GLORIA.TV exercising a right of veto against me: I DO have a problem with an organization claiming to be Catholic allowing - NO - encouraging dissent and vituperation against the Sacrifice of the Mass (in the Ordinary form), the Sacraments, the Pope and the Magisterium.
One example is Fr. Libor Halik who was unrestrained in his posts: A poster complained:
"To pope. Martyrs in Nigeria. A letter Do not believe them and this text. L.Halik give the propaganda of this ukrainian sect of laicized Antonin Elias Dohnal (ukrainian form Dognal) or Pidhiristi SECT. This laicized basilian monks would like only to find some people to manipulate their minds in psychological way (they have manipulated 5 monasteries and many people in Ukraine)."(sic.)

This 4 people are no bishops, also no priests, no monks and NO GREEK-CATHOLICS!!! They are heretics. They have done schism under the name of"ukrainian orthodox greek-catholic church (uogcc)" .And now they write letters to bishops and all cardinals over the world and excomunicated them and whole bishops conferences. They also would like to excommunicate John Paul II. after deathly at mostly for the prayers meetings of world religions for peace in Assisi. They also threaten to pope Benedict XVI. to excomunicate him if he canonizes John Paul II !!! As if they had some force direct from God! Horible!"
Libor Halik has been permitted to post his heretical propaganda - there are 1,328 of his posts to GLORIA.TV - up to the present time.
I made the following complaint to Fr. Ney several years ago:
I have only been visiting Gloria TV since the beginning of this year, and have found it be a magnet for a wide range of persons claiming to be Catholic in some sense or another. In the United States of America there are over two hundred ecclesial groups which contain the word "Catholic" or "Roman Catholic" in their name - none of which is in full communion with the Pope. Most of them are small in number of adherents. There are other groups - also not in full communion with the Pope - such as sedevacantists, pseudo-apparitionists (such as the Palmar de Troya group which claim a score or more bishops emanating from Archbishop Thuc - none of whose Orders are recognised by Rome), and scores of others, such as the SSPX, SSPV, Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen - and so on.
Firstly, one of the devil's tactic to divide and fragment the Church founded by Our Lord, Jesus Christ - The Catholic Church - is to weaken the Faith of Catholics by a huge variety of temptations to sin; but he will try to disguise his tactics by appearing to be 99% orthodox - and insinuating 1% of poison, which is ingested by many to their destruction.
Secondly, It is a coward's tactic to avoid answering direct questions by deflecting them with a question of their own.
These are tactics used by Libor Halik.
As of my last post, I was unaware of Libor Halik's prior posts, and knew nothing of his background - I assumed that he was a Catholic, albeit perhaps a sedevacantist.
Now, I applaud Libor Halik for so many of the good posts that he has put up - on such subjects as abortion, sodomy/homosexuality, moral issues, abuses and so on: they comprised the c. 99%. It appears, however, that Libor Halik has an agenda - and is pursuing that agenda now vigorously. This is his figurative 1%.
I will, first of all, answer Libor Halik's diversionary question - a question which, even if pertinent, has NO bearing on the rational or ability of Libor Halik's (or anyone else's) ecclesial group to "Excommunicate" or denigrate whether Pope John-Paul II is in Heaven or not. (Anyone who is in Heaven is a Saint.)
As it happens, Libor Halik and the ecclesial groups he promotes here on Gloria TV are living in a time warp - just as also do some Protestants and radical Muslims. There was outcry from sedevacantist/schismatic types at the time - which was dealt with by many Catholic apologists.
What IS apostasy? And, what is Libor Halik?
According to the Code of Canon Law, Canon 751: "... apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith;" Did Pope John-Paul II TOTALLY reject the Catholic Faith? NO!
Libor Halik is a priest of the Czech Orthodox Church, a.k.a. Orthodox Church of Czech Trade Lands and Slovakia, whose Primate is Archbishop Krystof (secular name: Radim Pulec) of Prague, and whose Bishop is Archbishop Simeon of Olomuc and Brno. Originating from the Serbian Orthodox Church, The Orthodox Church of the Czech Lands and Slovakia was granted autocephaly by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1951.
I, for one, would be grateful if Libor Halik would concentrate his efforts among his own congregation ( upon which I wish him God's blessings ) rather than to act like a K.G.B. agent provocateur amongst the Catholic people. I would be even more grateful if Gloria TV were to remove his pernicious propaganda.
F. John Loughnan

By No Means The ONLY Similar Diatribe On GLORIA TV!
Ex cathedra statements by Pope Paul VI concerning heresies - from the Russian poster "Apmeh"
(see Bulla "Cum ex Apostolatus Officio")

"On 1st May 2011, the Church has found herself in a sedes vacantis state. Pope Benedict XVI excommunicated himself from the Church by elevating to the altar of the Church the spirit of Assisi ­ the spirit of antichrist ­ through pseudo beatification. The culmination of this apostasy was preceded by gradual apostasy of the hierarchy and majority of theologians from the Gospel and apostolic teaching into heresy. etc., etc."
And from the same person: Can the Pope be a heretic?":

"On 1st May 2011, Benedict XVI beatified John Paul II who marked an apostatical path in the very Church. By this gesture of his, Benedict XVI elevated to the altar of the Church the programme of heretical syncretism of John Paul II. On 1st May 2011, the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate made it public that both these Popes fell out of the Church owing to their apostasy. As from 1st May 2011, the Church is in a sedes vacantis state. Benedict XVI occupies the papal office unlawfully. A heretic cannot be a Pope. Benedict XVI is a Pope no longer. etc., etc., etc...."

Up-loaded to GLORIA TV by slovojytia - 08/08/2012 05:07:22:
Declaration of an excommunication upon Pope Benedict XVI and John Paul II

Also allowed on GLORIA TV - the more Catholic the better! - without "moderation" or critical comments:
Czech Bishops' Conference (CBC)

God's anathema and excommunication
(Reply to an article by the CBC)

The greatest provocation throughout history in relation to God, causing damage to the Catholic Church as a whole, has been the beatification of an apostate and thus also of the spirit of Assisi - the spirit of antichrist. On 1 May 2011, the Pope brought an anathema - God's curse - both upon himself and upon the Catholic Church. On that very day, the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate separated from the Vatican betrayal in order to maintain continuity with the two-thousand-year tradition of the orthodox Catholic Church. This continuity was disrupted by Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Their new teaching with the spirit of the New Age has nothing to do with the Gospel, the apostolic teachings or the tradition of saints and martyrs.
Likewise the whole apostatical structure of the Church hierarchy brought down God's anathema upon the Catholic Church by its repeated treachery. God declares irrevocably through the Apostle: "Even if an angel from heaven preaches any other gospel to you, let him be accursed." (Gal 1:8-9) This God's verdict concerns every hierarch without exception who remained in unity with the ex-Pope. The apostate Pope no longer is head of the Church but rather of an ecclesiastical anti-christian system that is under God's curse." etc., etc., etc.
"THE MORE CATHOLIC THE BETTER" huh? - they HAVE to be kidding!!!

Letter to:
Fr Reto Ney re Fr. Libor Halik

Fr. Reto Nay (reto@gloria.tv)

Many thanks for your e-mail of Feb. 3, 2010 regarding my post to Gloria.tv and complaint. Unfortunately, I did not inspect your post until after sending my second post.
  1. "As to it being better to write to (you) first..."
    My e-mail was sent via office@gloria.tv - which is the only contact source provided by Gloria.tv following my response sent directly to the Forum. The e-mail was sent in desperation at the lack of Moderation exhibited by any Gloria.tv personality.
  2. I found it interesting that you referred me to the Catechism of the Catholic Church - without specifying a precise location. Being a "priest in good standing" is not always, nor is necessarily a guarantee of anything - much less a guarantee that the person will do his job!
  3. While it may be true that Gloria.tv needs "the help of (its) users to spot un-appropriate videos" - there ought to be a Moderator who does have the time and expertise to control inappropriate material overall.
  4. "To complain to others will not help making Gloria.tv better." I disagree! It may well activate the Gloria.tv executive to review its policy! Furthermore, you did not scruple to send replies to the persons involved.
  5. In furtherance thereof, I provide the following excerpts from one of your adherents, kfarley, who has maligned and insulted me to a degree that I have experienced on no other Forum - whether it be conservative, progressive, ultra-traditionalist, or sedevacantist! As an example, I have been a member of Catholic Answers Forum (operated by Karl Keating) since October 2004, and in that time have submitted 724 posts. I have NEVER been insulted in any way near the degree as on Gloria.tv!
  6. Furthermore, kfarley has promoted - not only unapproved mystical phenomena - but also ones which have been condemned by the local Ordinary, such as Christina Gallagher. And non-Catholic "shrines" such as "Holy Life Ministeries." In addition, he has promoted the sedevacantist propaganda of Br. Michael Dimond who, as you may be aware, believes that there has not been a valid pope since Pope Pius XII! During all of this - I patiently endured the venom, awaiting the action of a Moderator.
These "un-Catholic"-activities have been allowed to proliferate in virtue of someone's "lack of time." But, worse - anti-Catholic material has been allowed from the Orthodox priest, F. Libor Halik. How, does Canon #1369 not apply?

I appreciate that you, Fr. Ney, have other duties to attend to; but, if you have accepted the position, you are liable for a duty of care - as well as of Charity. And, if you are unable to do the work - then, there ought to be changes.

With kind regards and God bless,

F. John Loughnan

Now for the catalyst for the suspension!
"HOLYROPE" CONSIDERED
One Of GLORIA TV Contributors
GLORIA TV claims to be an Internet provider of video clips, texts, pictures and "forum" for Catholic matters. It's motto is "The more Catholic the better." Unfortunately, it is a vehicle for - not only good material - but, also for radical "traditionalists" to vent their spleen against real and imagined abuses against the Liturgy and practices of the post Vatican II Church. This study examines one of the posters.



But, first of all, WHO IS "holyrope"
"holyrope" has been meticulous in hiding all personal information possible, and in refusing to answer ANY question put to her regarding her opinions. Furthermore, she will not hesitate to ostracize others who, in her opinion oppose her views.
But, this is what CAN be discovered - here and there:


If anyone can identify this building in the Holy See, I would be grateful to receive advice as to the address and occupier. jloughnan@hotmail.com
    • that she commenced her "holyrope" identity on 31/07/2008
    • sex: female
    • Country: USA
    • Age: 42 [ - i.e. born c. 1966]
    • last on-line 17/04/2009
    • that she commenced her "holyrope 1" identity at GLORIA.TV on 03/05/2009
    • she is female
    • domiciled at: United States
    • that her GLORIA.TV user identity is 9795
    • and that her language is English
    • One can view a collection of her rants - and some critiques thereof HERE
  1. Here we see
    • that she commenced her "holyrope 3" identity at GLORIA.TV on 27/06/2010
    • that her GLORIA.TV user identity is 18363
    • she is female
    • domiciled at: Santa Sede (Città del Vaticano)
    • promotes: Latin Mass Times
    • and that her language is English

  2. Here - at right we saw
    • a picture of a statue of the Sacred Heart
    • Under which she has written on 24/07/2012: "Home Entrance Patio"
    • Questions: Is this a Convent in Rome? Is she a nun at that convent?
    • Comment:
      • The above entry has now been DELETED!
      • HOWEVER, evidence that it WAS at the stated URL is provided by GOOGLING: "gloria tv" "Home Entrance Patio" [as written]:
      • This produces eighteen (18) direct "hits" in different languages:
      • The evidence may be viewed at HERE
      • Someone has been going way out of their way to protect "holyrope"!
      • Methinks something stinketh!!!



In one of her first posts to GLORIA TV, "holyrope1" commented (on the video clip UFO's Over Vatican in Rome by U.S. Ambassador Security Guards:) on the only English comment by "fatherjeffrey" 16/06/2010 - who said:
"The sighting looks to me like someone was video taping stars with zoom lens fully extended. This effect happens when you hand hold your camera. You can try it yourself any clear night."
Which, if you view the clip is a fair comment.
"holyrope1's" combative nature was displayed with her following post:
"There are more qualified people that know and confirm their belief in Un-Identified Objects. "
Take that, "fatherjeffrey"!
And, that typifies "holyrope or holyrope1, or holyrope3's" aggressive attitude!
Holyrope has disclosed her age (now c. 46), previously located in the USA, but now at the VATICAN! She commenced postings c. July 2008 as "holyrope"
In one of her latter posts as "holyrope1", she scathingly commented on "fatherjeffrey's" clip on H. S. Students Sing and Speak at Graduation Mass thus:
"clown masses, beach masses, childrens' masses, new age masses, magic masses, teddy bear masses,..etc,. etc,.....

"This is why the Holy Father wants the Traditional Latin Mass in ALL churches."
Of course, the first comment was completely irrelevant - for the Graduation Mass was none of the above.
Early January 2012, "fatherjeffrey" wished well to all "who have been irritated" by his posts.
"holyrope" cannot abide ANY critiques of her posts, and will immediately cancel any with which she disagrees - and any by whomsoever she perceives as an opponent of her ideas.
Just recently, F. John Loughnan posted two comments (which holyrope3 cancelled) to her video clip on Gays in the Clergy 07-23-2012, wherein she had alleged without, of course, providing ANY EVIDENCE FOR HER ALLEGATION:
"Wonder if he believed that last statement after his lover exposed their relationship and had Gumbleton pay up $500,000.00 (of the parishioners money)!";
Reply to RomanCandle (whose post was also cancelled) from F. John Loughnan - 24/07/2012 20:30:05:

Romancandle
That was very typical of "holyrope 3"!
Being charitable about it - maybe she Googled "gumbleton $500,000"
Imagine my surprise to see some "hits".
Trouble is that most them referred to Scott Gumbleton ... I can't help wondering HOW an organization which claims to want "The more Catholic the better" can allow such blatant anti-Catholic opinions to be allowed and allowed to remain on site - while, at the same time, allow the cancellation of posts defending the Catholic Church.

Methinks I see a cloven hoof among the good stuff!

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F. John Loughnan - 24/07/2012 20:18:45:
My records show that in the period 1930 to 1964 inclusive there were 54 sex offender priests in the State of Victoria - that is, who were ordained under the pre-Vatican II Rite.
The total number of priests ordained in that period was 588.
The VAST number of offences were against males - that is - homosexual acts.

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She also took exception to the following posts to her video clip on Liturgical Abuse
Here she cancelled the following posts:
F. John Loughnan - 23/07/2012 12:51:34:
At the completion of Mass...
The doors of the Church are open...
A dog wanders in...
The priest doesn't kick it in the guts...
holyrope 3 screams abuse...
typical.
See my reply at HERE ...now deleted! ...

Again, the evidence may be viewed at GOOGLE HERE
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thebedards - 23/07/2012 12:37:28:
There was just as much abuse in the Latin Mass. I was an alter boy and lived it first hand!

John

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PLUS the following postings were also cancelled!

RomanCandle - 23/07/2012 19:04:18:
[This posting has been cancelled by the author of the medium.]

And,

jking1962 - 23/07/2012 15:01:11:
[This posting has been cancelled by the author of the medium.]

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BUT, give her her due: she DOES push and promote THE LATIN MASS - No matter who says it - so long as it is The Latin Mass - THAT's kosher with "holyrope"!
See her link to Latin Mass Times at http://www.gloria.tv/?user=18363. Starting at Alabama and looking just up to Georgia, we see:
Independent (Traditional Benedictine)
Diocese
CMRI - then moving through the list - a whole lot of
Independents - including "Fr. Morrison" of "Traditio" in San Francisco
SSPX, etc.
Out of interest, I checked on an old "name" who was ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1985, but who quit the SSPX for the Sovereign Military Order of St John of Jerusalem (O'Grady's spurious "Chivalric" Order): Fr. Gary Bitzer.
Sure enough, he is listed in the Kentucky group at Holy Family Priory, Union, Ky.! One can view further info. at http://jloughnan.tripod.com/wathenos4.htm In fact, I will post it to GLORIA TV.
But, holyrope has prior "form" - a form which she will not address, will not respond to, will not come to grips with; for despite all the deletions - the record remains AND the "snap shots" remain on my computer:
Jewish Sex Slave Trade

From: F. John Loughnan

Holyrope1 Thanks for the response - but it is a BAD response and a straw-man response.

In fact, it is a "Clayton's" response - which is: "The answer one gives when one does not want to or is unable to answer the question/s."

Again, the questions I ask of you demand precise answers; they are:

Do you therefore contend that the "Novus Ordo"

IS protestant?
IS invalid?
IS inefficacious?
What is it about the Anglican/Novus Ordo which makes it one of the above?
Is it the vernacular?
Is the (falsely called) Tridentine Mass incapable of being performed to such an extent that it IS invalid or inefficacious?
Prior to the Novus Ordo - was the (properly described) Roman Mass performed by satanists or freemasons?

But, I WILL respond to YOUR answers as to:

VALIDITY

First of all - viewing the video alone will NOT supply the answer. By viewing the video, how can YOU determine validity or invalidity? You can't.

You bring up Matter, Form and Intention; By viewing the video, how can YOU determine validity or invalidity? You can't.

You do bring up the known use of some masses using invalid matter - such as margarine and baking soda; but (while it is perfectly true that those ARE invalid in the Roman Rite, and they - or other invalid matter HAVE been used by disobedient or defiant priests) you are NOT able to prove simply by viewing the video that THAT Anglican service used invalid matter.

You then bring up "invalid form"; but, you do NOT establish that an invalid form WAS used in the Anglican Mass.

You bring up the situation of your daughter being told to "get up off her knees" - as if THAT is a proof of anything but stupidity or crassness on the part of the priest - who may have been ignorant of rubrics and Church Laws; but this is totally off the point as far as the video is concerned!!!

You are ignorant also of the correct name of the Mass to which you refer: The official rite of Mass for the Church is that contained in the Romano Missale (Roman Missal) IN LATIN. THAT is the official Mass. The vernacular is by way of permission or indult. What YOU refer to is the Extra-ordinary Rite of Mass.

I have already given a simple example to demonstrate that - say in the times when priests were incarcerated in Communist prisons - a priest could say Mass inside 30 seconds, confecting the Sacrament and Sacrifice under the very eyes of his guard.

A crumb or two of ordinary bread (unleavened bread is normally required in the Roman rite - but NOT some Eastern Rites), a drop of two of wine and saying the words of Christ: "This is MY Body" and "This is MY Blood." His intention, of course would be to "do what the church does" - that is to effect the Transubstantiation and offer the Sacrifice.

Priests normally go through several years of seminary prior to ordination, and are well aware of the need for the proper intention required by the Church. It would be a very perverse person who would do the time with the intention of not having the proper intention at ordination.

The Church takes it that if the priest has the proper intention, he carries that intention throughout his life as a priest - and even if he, for example, is almost asleep while saying Mass - THAT intention is taken as being present. It is called a "habitual intention."

It is AWFULLY hard to prove lack of intention! The only way known is if the priest performs or has what is called, "a positive contrary intention" - as, for example, saying "I have no intention of effecting any sacrifice of the Mass!" Or, I only do a "memorial of the Sacrifice", etc.

Why did I ask you both those questions?

Because I suspect that you both are ignorant of precisely what constitutes the matter, form and intent! And, because, I suspect that you are living dangerously close to denying a defined Dogma of the Faith - which, if you knew the Dogma and continued to deny it would ipso facto place you outside the communion of the Catholic Church.

So, what Dogmas may be involved?
The Sacraments of the New Covenant contain the grace which they signify, and bestow it on those who do not hinder it. (De fide.)

The Sacraments work ex opere operato. (De fide.)

All the Sacraments of the New Covenant confer sanctifying grace on the receivers. (De fide.)

Each individual sacrament confers a specific sacramental grace. (Sent. communis.)

Three Sacraments, Baptism, Confirmation and Holy Orders, imprint a character, that is, an indelible spiritual mark, and for this reason cannot be repeated. (De fide.)

The Sacramental Character is a spiritual mark imprinted on the soul. (De fide.)

The Sacramental Character confers the full power for the performance of acts of Christian Worship. (Sent. communis.)

The Sacramental Character continues at least until the death of its bearer. (De fide.)

All the Sacraments of the New Covenant were instituted by Jesus Christ. (De fide.)

Christ instituted all the Sacraments immediately and personally. (Sent. certa.)

Christ fixed the substance of the Sacraments. The Church has no power to alter them. (Sent. certa.)

There are Seven Sacraments of the New Law. (De fide.)

God can communicate grace even without the Sacraments. (Sent. certa.)

The Sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for the salvation of mankind. (De fide.)

The validity and efficacy of the Sacrament is independent of the minister's orthodoxy and state of grace. For the valid dispensing of the Sacraments it is necessary that the minister accomplish the Sacramental Sign in the proper manner. (De fide.)

The minister must further have the intention at least of doing what the Church does. (De fide.)

The Body and Blood of Jesus Christ are truly, really and substantially present in the Eucharist. (De fide.)

Christ becomes present in the Sacrament of the Altar by the transformation of the whole substance of the bread into His Body and the whole substance of the wine into His Blood. (De fide.)

The Eucharist is a true Sacrament instituted by Christ. (De fide.)

The matter for the consummation of the Eucharist is bread and wine. (De fide.)

The form of the Eucharist consists in Christ's Words of institution, uttered at the Consecration. (Sent. certa.)

The Holy Mass is a true and proper Sacrifice. (De fide.)

In the Sacrifice of the Mass, Christ's Sacrifice on the Cross is made present, its memory is celebrated, and its saving power is applied. (De fide.)

In the Sacrifice of the Mass and in the Sacrifice of the Cross the Sacrificial Gift and the Primary Sancrificing Priest are identical; only the nature and mode of the offering are different. (De fide.)

The essential Sacrificial Action consists in the Transubstantiation alone. (Sent. communis.)

The Holy Mass is a true and proper Sacrifice. (De fide.)

In the Sacrifice of the Mass, Christ's Sacrifice on the Cross is made present, its memory is celebrated, and its saving power is applied. (De fide.)

In the Sacrifice of the Mass and in the Sacrifice of the Cross the Sacrificial Gift and the Primary Sacrificing Priest are identical; only the nature and mode of the offering are different. (De fide.)

The essential Sacrificial Action consists in the Transubstantiation alone. (Sent. communis.)
I now asked you to explicitly and without equivocation affirm "that in the (so-called) Novus Ordo Mass (latin or vernacular) a true and proper sacrifice IS offered to God? Yes or No?"
Why that phraseology?
  1. It comes from "The Dogmatic Canons and Decrees of the Council Of Trent", Chapter VIII, "On the Sacrifice of the Mass", Canon I,:
    "Canon I. If anyone saith that in the Mass a true and proper sacrifice is not offered to God ... let him be anathema.
    I hope that you do not persist in denying that the Ordinary Mass of the Roman Rite (which is pejoratively described as a "NO mass") is "a true AND proper" sacrifice.

    Otherwise, it could be said that you fall under the anathema of Trent.
  2. "The [1983] Code of Canon Law", Canon 897 declares:
    "The most venerable sacrament is the blessed Eucharist, in which Christ the Lord himself is contained, offered and received, and by which the Church continually lives and grows. The eucharistic Sacrifice, the memorial of the death and resurrection of the Lord, in which the Sacrifice of the cross is forever perpetuated, is the summit and the source of all worship and Christian life. ... "
    The Code of Canon Law is talking here about the so-called "Novus Ordo Mass" which you appear to disparage as NOT being a "proper" sacrifice!
  3. It is a de fide Dogma of the Catholic Church that The Mass is a true and proper sacrifice.
  4. Fr. John Hardon, S.J., in "The Question and Answer Catholic Catechism" writes:
    "1263.What is the Sacrifice of the Mass? It is the Sacrifice in which Christ is offered under the species of bread and wine in an unbloody manner. The Sacrifice of the altar, then, is no mere empty commemoration of the Passion and Death of Jesus Christ, but a true and proper act of Sacrifice. Christ is the eternal High Priest, in an unbloody way offers himself a most acceptable Victim to the eternal Father, as he did upon the Cross."
This is true irrespective of whether the Liturgy is that of the Roman Rite Missal of 1570, 1604, 1634, 1888, 1920, 1955, 1960, 1961, 1964, 1965, or 1969!
F. John Loughnan
Holyrope3 chose again to make no response. Furthermore, she deleted my response.
EGCatholic, however, came to my defense:

EJGCatholic - 19/04/2010 01:39:35:
F. John Loughnan: God Bless you...



But, GLORIA TV IS TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT
FOR THE CONTINUOUS IMMODERATE DISSIDENT
F. John Loughnan - 15/04/2010 15:45:38:
GLORIA TV allows the unrestrained production on site of videos from schismatic and heretical sources.
In virtue of neglect the Owners/Directors have permitted un-moderated support for not only unapproved mystical phenomena - but also for ones which have been condemned by the local Ordinary, such as Christina Gallagher, and non-Catholic "shrines" such as"Holy Life Ministeries."
Heretical sedevacantist propaganda of Br. Michael Dimond has been permitted (Sedevacantists believe that there has not been a valid pope since Pope Pius XII!)
These "un-Catholic" activities have been allowed to proliferate allegedly in virtue of someone's "lack of time." But, worse - anti-Catholic anti-papal material has been allowed from the Orthodox priest, F. Libor Halik. Only one video of his has been removed under protest; many others of the same type remain.
Canon #1369 of the Code of Canon Law provides:
"A person is to be punished with a just penalty, who, at a public event or assembly, or in a punished writing, or otherwise using the means of social communication, utters blasphemy, or gravely harms public morals, or rails at or excites hatred of or contempt for religion or the Church."
How, does Canon #1369 not apply in these cases?
In the current case, we have a "white supremist" "jew hater" now pushing hatred against the Jews.
If holyrope1 is not offended by that - then, that tells us something! I can understand holyrope1's sentiments - in view of the fact of her "railing and exciting hatred of or contempt for religion or the Church" when she campaigns so hard against the current practices of the Church!
There are some other things which "tells us something" as kfarley pointed out some time ago. He had asked holyrope1 some questions but received no reply. In fact, he asked her about a half-dozen times to answer, but she refused to do so.
She wrote:
In the thread Miracles Within Our Catholic Church - now deleted!
"This is brother Dimond speaking...he is known by others as somewhat controversial.
Although what he says here is correct."

The use of "others" here means that Brother Dimond is controversial for "other people - but not me!"
Kfarley wrote in the same thread 02/01/2010 | 15:36:35
"holyrope1, I respectfully want to point out though that you are coming from the standpoint of opposing Vatican II in the website that you sent me. On the site it said "Heresies of Pope Benedict" and the site had countless references to how horrible Vatican II was. There is a sect that calls itself Catholic about 40 miles from Rochester, MN where I live who are in this same group-they do not recognize our Pope! Even though this sect call themselves Catholics-they are in fact Heretics. They do say the traditional Latin Mass but they have cult-like practices that even say it is immoral for a woman to wear slacks! They must wear long dresses. Be careful in any order that questions the Holy Father-they are not in fact Catholic." To which there was NO RESPONSE - despite another approx. 5 requests!
Excerpts from holyrope:
SSPX Ex-Communicated German Bishop Fellay - now deleted!
"was???? That's highly debatable! ... "
She doubts that Archbishop Lefebvre and the four SSPX bishops were actually excommunicated - despite the Pope's explicit Declaration, and despite the SSPX bishops pleading for its removal!
SSPX Rosary Crusade
holyrope1 - 04/01/2010 15:24:31 wrote:
" ... When it comes to our Catholic Tradition, the SSPX is second to none! ... "
No? Not even to the Pope, the Fathers of Mercy? - But, how "Traditional" is it to disobey the direct command of the Pope?
Interestingly, hard-line Feenyite Lionel Andrades contributed July 22, 2011:
"SSPX UNABLE TO PROCLAIM THAT ALL NON CATHOLIC PARTICIPANTS AT ASSISI 2011 ARE ON THE PATH TO HELL"
No comment from Holyrope1


To Elisha's production of the document below in Part 2 SSPX Excommunicated Bishop Fellay Speaks his mind. - now deleted!
"Dear Holyrope1, my sister in Christ, Please read this:
"CONGREGATIO PRO EPISCOPIS

"By way of a letter of December 15, 2008 addressed to His Eminence Cardinal Dario Castrillón Hoyos, President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Mons. Bernard Fellay, also in the name of the other three Bishops consecrated on June 30, 1988, requested anew the removal of the latae sententiae excommunication formally declared with the Decree of the Prefect of this Congregation on July 1, 1988. In the aforementioned letter, Mons. Fellay affirms, among other things: "We are always firmly determined in our will to remain Catholic and to place all our efforts at the service of the Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ, which is the Roman Catholic Church. We accept its teachings with filial animus. We believe firmly in the Primacy of Peter and in its prerogatives, and for this the current situation makes us suffer so much."
" ... "
You guessed it - NO direct RESPONSE to the matter under discussion!
In lieu, she castigated balloon masses, etc.
"It is an abomination before the Lord! And if you don't realize this, then I pity you. If you do realize this and can sit back and only say to pray for them..what in the mean time are we to do as he pushes away souls from the True faith, when his Main responsibility is to SAVE THEM! ... "
kfarley also requested responses, in vain, in: The Myths of Vatican II
"holyrope1 I asked you the other night about the Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary and if SSPX recognizes them-you never answered the question."
No RESPONSE In the same thread Elisha9281 pleaded:
"Dear Holyrope1, my dear sister in Christ, did you read my post sister? Who is defending sodomites? The Bishops? Are you attacking our priests again? Please clarify your position and please list it in a more coherent manner. Also give me specific Church teaching that defends such behaviour? Please list every one just as you have listed quotes that are taken out of context. Do you not see that in your way of thinking you proscribe to the individuals who are most wanting to harm the Church? We are the children of Holy Mother Church.
"I know the same quotes but that did not answer my questions. Please in filial love, I ask you to take the time and read the post and answer my questions."
No RESPONSE
kfarley further asked 06/01/2010 11:19:30:
A Call to Implement Vatican II

"I really think that SSPX should come back to the Church-if they submitted to Rome they would be heard. They would have their Latin Mass said. If there was honesty brought into this talk we could learn a lot. I asked holyrope1 if she-SSPX accepted the Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary and she did not even give answer. That is very telling."
kfarley again 08/01/2010 15:12:39:
FSSP - Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

"Well there you have it folks. holyrope1 cannot even focus enough to reply to simple questions. These questions have been asked on numerous occasions throughout the past 2 weeks and still have gone unanswered by her. Mind you I have answered holyrope1 but when she's questioned she goes off on a rant that makes no sense. It would be like you asking somebody what time it was and they would reply 'Apples'."
And again:
FSSP - Holy Sacrifice of the Mass 08/01/2010 15:00:20
"I'll try again for demonstration purposes-do you hate the English Mass AND can SSPX say John Paul II Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary if they want to-hmmmmmmmm?" No RESPONSE
And again:
"At least I give a response. Here I'll ask you again-do you hate the English Mass AND what does SSPX say about John Paul II Luminous Mysteries-Can SSPX say them if they want to?-Can you respond to these questions-finally-please-someday?"
No RESPONSE
OK, holyrope1 - what did you DO? Did you face the celebrant and remonstrate with him? Do you face or write to the local bishop to voice your legitimate complaint? Do you write to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the faith? Or do you, instead, under the cloak of cowardly anonymity rant and rail on public forums?
This is what holyrope1 does:
SCHISMATIC SSPX STYLE PROPAGANDA FILM - Now DELETED!
"Attend a True Mass with ALL the Plentitude of Graces. We promise you there will not be teddy bears, balloons, ballerinas, clowns or even animals in the sanctuary and around the altar! "No this is not your modern (anything goes) mass. It is our ancient HOLY and HEAVENLY MASS! ATTEND ONE TODAY."
As if the Ordinary form of Mass does NOT possess "ALL the Plentitude of Graces."
Holyrope1 again in: Mass of the Immaculate Conception
"WHERE DO YOU FIND A HOLY AND BEAUTIFUL MASS LIKE THIS? ONLY IN THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS."
And again:
SSPX-November 14, 2009-A Catholic Opinion on SSPX [i.e. holyrope1's opinion!] Now DELETED!

" ... "I use to attend daily novus ordo masses, wondering myself if what was taking place was within the rules of the Church. As time went on and I pursued in reading up what the Church teaches about the mass, the rubrics and everything else, I literally became ill from all that I had to witness. Our poor Lord, having the holy Eucharist drop onto the floor so many times, "extraordinary ministers" distributing Communion while living with their homosexual partner. Even witnessing a lay eucharistic "minister" leave the restroom without washing their hands only to touch Our Lord and to distribute Him to the faithful."
And again:
A complete Catholic Mass, St Columba Cathedral

Since when should "Women" come before "MEN"? Is this another "politically correct" statement? By the looks of the "women up in the sanctuary, hands open to receive the Eucharist, and distributing Communion, one can only come to the conclusion of "political correctness" being used here. Christ chose an ALL MALE PRIESTHOOD... THAT WILL AND CAN NOT CHANGE.
Communion in the hand is an ABOMINATION to the LORD.
Women have NO place in the Sanctuary, nor giving out Communion as well as any lay person. THAT REMAINS FOR THE CONSECRATED HANDS OF THE PRIEST.
And again - but there is more ... .
Introite of the Tridentine Mass in Einsiedeln 24/01/2010
"THIS IS THE MASS! THE TRUE MASS OF THE ANGELS AND SAINTS!"
In other words, she is saying: - do NOT attend the Roman Rite of Mass in the ORDINARY form! If this is not incitement to hatred for the Mass in the Ordinary form - I don't know what is!

Not Only, But Also
Novus Ordo...holyrope 3 - 25/09/2010 00:55:34:
"deviation from the holy and orthodox ordinary form"???? you have got to be kidding!
There is Nothing holy and certainly NOT orthodox in the new mass which is suppose to be considered as the "ordinary" form.
But when you think about it, the word EXTRAORDINARY rings a more pleasant and meaningful sound. The traditional Latin Mass is EXTRAORDINARY!!
Time for people to give up these Protestant services once and for all! Unless you don't mind that our Lord is being blasphemed and forgotten about.


For more holyrope rants - click HERE


Has "holyrope" been critiqued unjustly?
Here is a recent comments from the lady in question:
Gays in the Clergy
24/07/2012: "Loughnan is seeking to get banned from Gloria tv. It couldn't be soon enough."
Others threatened with "banning" include:
Preparing for Lent
25/02/2012: RomanCandle: "Stop being a Troublemaker, your lucky GloriaTV hasn't banned you yet."



The time WILL come when she will have to provide answers.
May she receive the Mercy and Peace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.






Anthony Principe a.k.a. Holy Cannoly is considered in the file
GLORIA TV Moderator Admitted 'PREFERRING' The SSPX


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More Harassment By "moderator" A. Principe a.k.a. Holy Cannoli
This Time of Fr. Robert J. Carr
After suffering unjust criticism and harassment by Principe/Cannoli, Fr. Carr posted the following:
Response To Dan Brown - by: Fr. Robert J. Carr - Frrobertjcarr - 12/08/2012 07:03:24: - which, to cover Principe/Holy Cannoli's extremely disgusting reply - has now been
"Holy, holy, holy, I stand by my words. Now Holy it seems to me that you are taking to publicly attacking me. I don't know why? But if I have done something to hurt you please let me know. Otherwise, it would appear to me that you are trying to drive me from Gloria.TV.

"Am I right?"
To which Principe/Cannoli replied:
Response To Dan Brown - by: Fr. Robert J. CarrHoly Cannoli - 12/08/2012 07:47:08:
"'Clearly this was designed as a form of attack on me as a priest.'" "Actually, no. Why do you believe that everything I write is an attack on you personally.
"From your public statements, I believe it would be correct to say that you are somehow, in someway involved in the charismatic movement within the Catholic Church. I hope you don't take that statement as a personal attack since it is based on what you yourself have written.
"Additionally, I believe that it is likely that you have NOT read the article referenced earlier which was critical of the charismatic movement calling it, in fact, non-Catholic. http://salbert.tripod.com/index-3a.html
"And so, instead of beating the proverbial 'dead horse', I would simply like to provide one paragraph from that same article which summarizes my view and, at the same time, is likely to be diametrically opposed to Catholic charismatics everywhere including those who post on Gloria.tv.
"The Pentecostalism and ecumenism presently gripping our Holy Church could be nicknamed "Luther's Conquest." It is not only our duty to resist it, but also to beseech Heaven on behalf of the "Catholic Char- ismatic" who prays with his hands in the air and his foot on the throat of traditional Catholic doctrine and practice.
"-------------------------
"Have a good evening, Fr. Carr and a blessed Sunday. -
BOTH posts have been "disappeared" as of August 13, 2012
Nevertheless, rhemes has posted the following in defense of Fr. Robert J. Carr:
rhemes1582 - 13/08/2012 12:53:22:
Holy Cannoli and Fidelium
Give yourselves a pat on the back..You chased a Catholic Priest from the site.

You must be very proud.........What's that you say? Crucify Him?
Moreover, ALL of Fr. Robert J. Carr's videos and postings have now beenDELETED!, and his current status with GLORIA TV is recorded at: http://en.gloria.tv/?user=90674 as follows:

"This channel is not currently active"
"Member since 01/08/2012

So! Fr. Carr definitely has been intimidated, insulted, hounded and banned by Anthony Principe a.k.a. Holt Cannoli a.k.a. "one of the most romantic man [sic.] in the entire Western Hemisphere."
But, that is typical of the "methodology" of Anthony Principe a.k.a. Holy Cannoli, Fidelium, lukedaniel, Ben Martin, Holyrope 3 and their ilk!


In CONCLUSION
Let me allow the last words to the self-described "one of the most romantic man (sic.) in the entire Western Hemisphere."
"Gloria.TV News on the 14th of August
Holy Cannoli - 15/08/2012 09:00:11:

"Thank you for the news, Doina.

"I hope you will continue to provide news items from various news sources. It would be indeed a pity if you followed the advice of narrow minded simpletons who thought that only articles derived from religious sources are worthwhile news items.

"As you know, it is important to provide news from diverse sources if, for no other reason, to demonstrate what secular outlets are reporting and the manner in which they are reporting religious news.

"Only in that way can substantive rebuttals be offered by those with the mental capacity to comment substantively.

"Regrettably, substantive rebuttals are few and far between even here on Gloria. That is, of course, with the exception of one or two pompous, sanctimonious, phonies who plagiarize their responses from other sources as if they had written the response themselves.

"p.s. I almost forgot. You do look lovely today."

Files, which had a few days earlier been described as "valuable", "deleted" from GLORIA TV records:
of course, they are still viewable on my web-site!
750 Selected Articles From Back Issues of "ANNALS AUSTRALASIA" - formerly known as "ANNALS Australia"
A DEFENCE OF THE PAULINE MASS, A
Anathemas are attached to those who disobey Papal decrees, based on Papal Authority
CHRISTIAN LIFE AND WORSHIP by Rev. Gerald Ellard, S.J., Ph.D. 1
Council of Trent: Decrees not fully implemented in some parts for up to 100 years.
Dr. Jeffrey Bond on Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity
Ecclesiastical Documents: October, 27, 1998 "Ecclesia Dei" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Reply to F. John Loughnan
EXAMPLES OF "TRADITIONALIST FLAT-EARTHisms"
"Fibs" and Deceptions: brochure: "Is The Society Of St Pius X Schismatic? Excommunicated? Rome Says NO. Can Anyone Go To Their Latin Masses? YES."
IN DEFENSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO MISSAE OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI PART I: ARGUMENT FROM HISTORY
Is The Society of St Pius X In Schism? Rome's Reply Of 27 October 1998 Declares: YES!
It's not "us" - it's "you"!
Jews: CAN A JEW BE POPE?
Jury finds [SSPX] church liable for slander, distress. Awards Post Falls man $800,000 in damages
Litany of Offensive "Lefebvrisms"
My Reasons for Withdrawing Support From the Society of St Pius X (SSPX)
NOVUS ORDO WORDS OF CONSECRATION FROM THE MOZARABIC RITE
One of the Society of St Pius X [SSPX] "Claims" Examined - "Rome Speaks in re Murray
Pope Paul VI Letter to Lefebvre 1976.
Some Clerics and Laity Believed To Have Reconciled/Reverted or to have "Re-appraised" former Positions
The Anything BUT Consistent Mind of Archbishop Lefebvre
The Flat Earth Society and SSPX Type 'Traditionalists'
The Great Apostasy? - A Summary by Desmond Birch, Author of "Trial Tribulation and Triumph"
THE LOGIC AND METHODOLOGY OF HOLY CANNOLI a.k.a. A. PRINCIPE
What Michael Davies omitted from POPE PAUL VI'S LETTER TO ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE in Chapter 15 of his "Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre
Why do we? - Receive Communion in the hand, standing? by Paul Stenhouse, M.S.C., Ph.D


Also deleted was a video slide show of 1200 Holy Pictures - helpful in meditation on the Mysteries of the Rosary, plus some two dozen holy pictures.
A list of some 367 "cancelled" posts is available at GOOGLE




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