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Guardian · Sep 22, '06, 1:37 am

Will someone please list out all the known Catholic translations of the Bible?

1. New American Bible
2. Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition
3. New Jerusalem Bible

What else? There must be many......

demerzel85 · #2 Sep 22, '06, 3:52 am

01. Haydock Douay Rheims
02. Douay Rheims
03. Confranternity Bible
04. Mgr Knox Bible
05. Ignatius Study Bible (RSVCE)
06. Navarre Bible (RSVCE)
07. 1966 Jerusalem Bible
08. Chistian Community Bible (1st-3rd Edition)
09. New American Bible 1970
10. New American Bible 1986
11. New Revised Standard Version
12. Christian Community Bible (Later Editions)
13. New Jerusalem Bible
14. Catholic Living Bible
15. Good New Bible

1-9 Is free from Inclusive Language
10-15 Is plagued by inclusive Language

**thistle** · #3 Sep 22, '06, 5:51 am

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Originally Posted by demerzel85

01. Haydock Douay Rheims
02. Douay Rheims
03. Confranternity Bible
04. Mgr Knox Bible
05. Ignatius Study Bible (RSVCE)
06. Navarre Bible (RSVCE)
07. 1966 Jerusalem Bible
08. Chistian Community Bible (1st-3rd Edition)
09. New American Bible 1970
10. New American Bible 1986
11. New Revised Standard Version
12. Christian Community Bible (Later Editions)
13. New Jerusalem Bible
14. Catholic Living Bible
15. Good New Bible

1-9 Is free from Inclusive Language
10-15 Is plagued by inclusive Language

Is number 2 the Challoner?

demerzel85 · #4 Sep 22, '06, 5:54 am

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Originally Posted by thistle

Is number 2 the Challoner?

Yeah cause its in print. No 1 is Dr Troy.

**thistle** · #5 Sep 22, '06, 7:26 am

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Originally Posted by demerzel85

Yeah cause its in print. No 1 is Dr Troy.

Who is Dr Troy?

demerzel85 · #6 Sep 22, '06, 7:53 am

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Originally Posted by thistle

Who is Dr Troy?

The Haydock Douay Rheims uses Dr Troy's 1794 Translation of the New Testament. He was one of the translators involved in revising the original Douay Rheims.

Ron Conte · #7 Sep 22, '06, 8:36 am

I would not consider the Haydock edition to be a separate version, but only a separate edition.

The list should distinguish:

original Douai and Rhemes version
Challoner revision

also, I'm working on a new translation of the Bible from the Clementine Latin Vulgate into English, called the Catholic Public Domain Version:
http://www.sacredbible.org/
but this version is only about half completed.

Ron

**thistle** · #8 Sep 22, '06, 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by demerzel85

The Haydock Douay Rheims uses Dr Troy's 1794 Translation of the New Testament. He was one of the translators involved in revising the original Douay Rheims.

okay. thanks.

kevathaide01 · #9 Sep 22, '06, 9:09 am

Nice list. There were only two in my list: the Douay Rheims and the Vulgate.

JoeyWarren · #10 Sep 22, '06, 1:19 pm

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1-9 Is free from Inclusive Language
10-15 Is plagued by inclusive Language

hmmmmmmmm, can you put that into layman's terms?

Sabda · #11 Sep 22, '06, 7:20 pm

JoeyWarren,
An example of this is

From the RSV-CE

Matt 9:8
[8] When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men.

From the NAB
Matt 9:8

8
4 When the crowds saw this they were struck with awe and glorified God who had given such authority to human beings.

Notice that one says men and the other says human beings? The RSV-CE does not have inclusive language and the NAB does.

Manfred · #12 Sep 22, '06, 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by demerzel85

01. Haydock Douay Rheims
02. Douay Rheims
03. Confranternity Bible
04. Mgr Knox Bible
05. Ignatius Study Bible (RSVCE)
06. Navarre Bible (RSVCE)
07. 1966 Jerusalem Bible
08. Chistian Community Bible (1st-3rd Edition)
09. New American Bible 1970
10. New American Bible 1986
11. New Revised Standard Version
12. Christian Community Bible (Later Editions)
13. New Jerusalem Bible
14. Catholic Living Bible
15. Good New Bible

1-9 Is free from Inclusive Language
10-15 Is plagued by inclusive Language

A later post states correctly thay you need distinguish between the ORIGINAL Douai (1609) and Rhemes (1582), and the one most of us know today as the Douay-Rheims, which is actually that with the Challoner revisions. The Haydock edition is primarily a commentary, not a unique D-R, though it may incorporate a few variations of Dr Troy.

"Confraternity" in your list is misspelled.

The Navarre and Ignatius are commentaries which use the Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition (1966); they are not different translations.

And please omit the pseudo-translations, the Good News and the Living bibles from the list. They are too paraphrastic for any serious study, and to allow them for even "casual" reading is not a good path to follow, IMHO.

demerzel85 · #13 Sep 22, '06, 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Manfred

A later post states correctly thay you need distinguish between the ORIGINAL Douai (1609) and Rhemes (1582), and the one most of us know today as the Douay-Rheims, which is actually that with the Challoner revisions. The Haydock edition is primarily a commentary, not a unique D-R, though it may incorporate a few variations of Dr Troy.

"Confraternity" in your list is misspelled.

The Navarre and Ignatius are commentaries which use the Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition (1966); they are not different translations.

And please omit the pseudo-translations, the Good News and the Living bibles from the list. They are too paraphrastic for any serious study, and to allow them for even "casual" reading is not a good path to follow, IMHO.

Actually the list also discriminates between the features found in the publication. For example the commentary in Navarre and Ignatius Study focus on different aspects. Navarre being more for spiritual growth, Ignatius being for more detailed knowledge of concepts. The same goes for the Haydock and Challoner DRV. And regardless whether or not the GNB is too much of a para-phrase it still got imprimatured by Cardinal Hume.

Rolltide · #14 Sep 22, '06, 9:13 pm

Ignatius also puts out the RSV-CE 2nd edition, which is used in the Ignatius Study Bible.

Semper Fi · #15 Sep 22, '06, 9:15 pm

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Originally Posted by JoeyWarren

hmmmmmmmm, can you put that into layman's terms?

In layman's terms inclusive language is the practice of secularists translating the Bible who wish to see women have more "power" in the church. Rome has rejected the recent translations of the New American Bible which is used in Sunday liturgy in Latin Catholic parishes in the United States (mandated by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, or USCCB for short).

Canadian dioceses use a much worse translation, which is the New Revised Standard Version - "Catholic" Edition.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Bibl...ions_Guide.asp

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